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Beginners' Questions Does anyone know why 2 different versions of Inkscape have 2 different outcomes for the same actions.
  1. #1
    StuartB StuartB @StuartB

    Version 0.91 and 0.92 do 2 different things with .svg files when loading them in to another program.

    The document is the same and has the same settings and saved in the same format from both versions of inkscape,

    When loaded in to another program the screen position is completely wrong.

    https://imgur.com/EVY37u0

    https://imgur.com/ztClW6N

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  2. #2
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    Major revisions in .92.

    https://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/Release_notes/0.92#Inkscape_0.92

     

     

  3. #3
    StuartB StuartB @StuartB

    Thanks but that does'nt really help.

    If the documents are in mm's then they should both be the same when saved, they are identical.

    Why would it save them differently so they load in to other programs differently ?

     

     

     

  4. #4
    brynn brynn @brynn

    Welcome to the forum!

    It appears that you changed the Scale setting in Document Properties.  That's probably what's causing the problem.

    Change the Scale setting to 3.77953, and never touch it again, unless you understand it, and know what you're doing.

     

    (Developers, are you starting to get the picture why this setting needs to be hidden, or maybe called something else?  Or better yet, return to using px for native units, since Inkscape IS a computer program.  Then the Scale setting would not be needed.)

  5. #5
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    I don't think the OP actually changed the scale, the default.svg that ships with the release versions is set to units=mm and scale=1.  When the OP opened his file in the newer version, Inkscape added scale to the older file.

    I agree totally that Inkscape releases should be set to units=px and scale=1, and the scale controls buried in a docProps tab.

     

    TD

  6. #6
    StuartB StuartB @StuartB

    Thanks. Did'nt change any scale settings in either version. It's set to 1 in v 0.92, but where is it in v 0.91 ?

     

  7. #7
    brynn brynn @brynn

    Hhmm, that's definitely a possibility.  I didn't see where an older file was opened in the newer version - just that they tried both versions.  But that could be the case as well.

  8. #8
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    @stuartB, I have LaserGRBL on my machine. Please share a copy of your older .91 file for testing.

     

    TD

  9. #9
    StuartB StuartB @StuartB
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    Ooops! Mistake.

     

  10. #10
    StuartB StuartB @StuartB
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    Ok Tyler. It's the original file. It just loads differently in LaserGRBL if it's been saved in the 2 different versions of inkscape with the same settings.

    https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZBzPWkZ2l7Y3ez1WWuhK3PpmtfgPXrEFFsk

     

  11. #11
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    That seems to be the later file, not the original.

    <svg
       xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
       xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#"
       xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#"
       xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
       xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"
       xmlns:sodipodi="http://sodipodi.sourceforge.net/DTD/sodipodi-0.dtd"
       xmlns:inkscape="http://www.inkscape.org/namespaces/inkscape"
       width="7mm"
       height="74mm"
       viewBox="0 0 7 74"
       version="1.1"
       id="svg8"
       inkscape:version="0.92.4 (5da689c313, 2019-01-14)"
       sodipodi:docname="Pent with vines.svg">

    Headers say: inkscape:version="0.92.4 (5da689c313, 2019-01-14)"

    It does show the issue, but the original will be helpful to develop an efficient workaround.

     

    TD

  12. #12
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    In the meantime, you might try this in Inkscape:

    • Cut the artwork (Ctrl-C)
    • Add a new layer on top.
    • Paste-in-place the artwork (Ctrl+Alt+V)
    • Delete the original layer(s) and save.

    I tried this with the .92 file (which showed the issue)... it seems to open fine in LaserGRBL, scale looks ok in this test.

     

    TD

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  13. #13
    StuartB StuartB @StuartB

    Hi Tyler. Sorry I did'nt make it completely clear.

    It's not actually my file, I was trying to find out why for someone else.

    It is the original but it was made in 0.92.

    He said he had the problem and asked for help.

    I only had 0.91 installed on my PC at the time so I loaded it in to that, saved it without any changes and loaded it in to Lasergrbl and it worked fine.

     

     

     

  14. #14
    Tyler Durden Tyler Durden @TylerDurden

    OK, no worries. Now we have a workaround if it happens.

    I don't know yet how to replicate the issue from scratch, but I may poke at it at some point.

     

    TD

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